[WoW] Will Legacy Servers become a thing? (Blizzard)
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I can see it happen, but I'm not too sure.
As long as Blizzard can still make money off it, then I'm sure they're definitely considering it. It would require a LOT of work though I think, so they're probably just listening to the community right now while they figure out just how much time/resources it would take, and to see if it's really worth it.
If enough people keep talking about it, I imagine Blizzard will start working on them, but secretly, then at the last minute, like a month or two before release, they'll surprise everyone saying they've got legacy servers. They're possibly working on them right now.
Agreed. I think they're main problem is they're too caught up with their own story, they think EVERYONE loves it, or is going to love it, when in reality, a lot of people are starting to dislike it. I think Legion and WoD are attempts to bring back the old players, but they're seeing it isn't happening. It'll take a little bit, but they'll eventually remove their head from their rear-ends and see.
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I hate to be this guy but... I think Blizzard rather would see World of Warcraft die and then they'd "obsolete" it. There's hardly enough profit for them to put the massive amount of work and effort that is required (since they according to their own claims haven't kept older versions of the game) to backport the game. Just take a minute to imagine that for yourself. And at the same time they are making more money than they could ever imagine from their other games. Just look at Hearthstone revenues which was $20 USD million per month, and has probably grown since (https://www.google.com/search?q=Hearthstone profits&rct=j).
Not to mention they just launched Overwatched not too long ago. I'd say there is definitely an audience for legacy servers but Blizzard probably fears that the audience is not big enough, and that the game has had its prime no matter what they try to do in terms of reviving it.
Surprised Blizzard invited the Nostalrius staff, it is not like them not to wait for the "hype" around these kind of events to die and people returning to their regular habits. Might have just been an maneuver to lead away constant nagging from people towards Blizzard with some "hope" (while they were surely discussing ideas, Blizzard would implement the ideas differently and tweak them obviously, from whatever Nost suggested which most likely wasn't too creative other than bringing back vanilla)
.TL DR; No I don't think we will see official legacy servers (it's not a smart move from their PoV), they might instead use the Legion expansion and further expansions (if any) to make the game "more as it was" (but still different), before finally putting it to a close.
Edit; There was also discussion going on about "Pristine" realms (after/in between the legacy server fuss) which you might want to look at, but that was heavily criticized by the community. See here http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20743584206
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I hate to be this guy but... I think Blizzard rather would see World of Warcraft die and then they'd "obsolete" it. There's hardly enough profit for them to put the massive amount of work and effort that is required (since they according to their own claims haven't kept older versions of the game) to backport the game. Just take a minute to imagine that for yourself. And at the same time they are making more money than they could ever imagine from their other games. Just look at Hearthstone revenues which was $20 USD million per month, and has probably grown since (https://www.google.com/search?q=Hearthstone%20profits&rct=j).
Not to mention they just launched Overwatched not too long ago. I'd say there is definitely an audience for legacy servers but Blizzard probably fears that the audience is not big enough, and that the game has had its prime no matter what they try to do in terms of reviving it.
Surprised Blizzard invited the Nostalrius staff, it is not like them not to wait for the "hype" around these kind of events to die and people returning to their regular habits. Might have just been an maneuver to lead away constant nagging from people towards Blizzard with some "hope" (while they were surely discussing ideas, Blizzard would implement the ideas differently and tweak them obviously, from whatever Nost suggested which most likely wasn't too creative other than bringing back vanilla)
TL DR; No I don't think we will see official legacy servers (it's not a smart move from their PoV), they might instead use the Legion expansion and further expansions (if any) to make the game "more as it was" (but still different), before finally putting it to a close.
Edit; There was also discussion going on about "Pristine" realms (after/in between the legacy server fuss) which you might want to look at, but that was heavily criticized by the community. See here http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20743584206
I can somewhat agree with this, but not quite.
I think Blizzard would at least make a vanilla legacy server and see how that goes. I strongly doubt Blizzard hasn't kept copies of the previous expansions. There's no way they'd let huge projects just dissapear like that. I think they just said that to try to keep people from wanting the legacy servers, hoping that people would think it'd take too much time/resources, when in reality, Blizzard could do it.
If Blizzard hasn't kept a copy, then vanilla WoW is as far as the legacy servers would go, if they even do it.
Well, unless they worked with branches and started off on a new one with each expansion it does make sense that they haven't kept a copy of their older versions. I mean why would they? They don't count it as a huge project disappearing, but their game evolving by their development and therefore there's no interest in older revisions (besides reverting bad fixes, fixing bugs...).
I don't think they expected to ever have to reverse their game version back to an older patch and not just keep a constant work-flow happening on the game. Then again, a lot of things were unforeseeable.
Then it's the dilemma of setting up a (huge!) team working on legacy projects while maintaining development on current versions and moving the game forward at the same time (with all their other projects and games going on). It's really just a loss situation in my eyes.
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Blizzard may or may not be this way, but I personally would save a copy of each expansion of the game, 2 for each expansion: 1 before the pre-expansion updates, and 1 just before the next expansion takes place.
It's more of a trohpy, or an achievement, to me. Something I could look back on and enjoy it. Or just encase something bad were to happen, and I needed a backup. Although with that part, some people would probably just replace the backup with a new, more updated backup.
And as for how much time and resources it would take to re-make their older expansions, thats why I say they would probably just have vanilla WoW legacy server, and keep it at that. If they really wanted to, but didn't have the time, they could start work from the source of Nostalrius, or something similar, just to have a baseline.
Working from the source of of Nostalrius is something they would never consider, they'd be more than enough capable on their own (but it's still about the money which either makes or breaks a project) and not break their own EULA and TOS and other regulations in the process
.Blizzard is a competent company, they have a very advanced backup system for data (because what gaming company hasn't) and their game versions as well I'm sure. And I personally wouldn't have done this and that, but it doesn't really matter, they may or may not have backups of legacy versions -- we will have to wait and see what the future brings in terms of WoW!
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If what they say is true - that they don't have the source anymore, using Nostalrius source wouldn't even be a considerable thought, it would break the GNU GPL license. But yes, pristine realms were also a brought up-topic, but not much positive feedback from it.
Personally I think they won't post anything close to an update for atleast five months as legion expansion is very close to a release, and surely they want people's attention on that and not legacy servers (in my opinion)
Personally I think they won't post anything close to an update for atleast five months as legion expansion is very close to a release, and surely they want people's attention on that and not legacy servers (in my opinion)
Blizz could do it this way:
If they would focus more on making "phasing" work flawlessly (admittedly I have not played since right after 4.3.4). Once that is accomplished, it is possible to run every expansion via phasing. Something that could be toggled on/off (so you could party with people out of your phase, etc). "Hey Siggy, phase to vanilla and go ____" or whatever.
If they would focus more on making "phasing" work flawlessly (admittedly I have not played since right after 4.3.4). Once that is accomplished, it is possible to run every expansion via phasing. Something that could be toggled on/off (so you could party with people out of your phase, etc). "Hey Siggy, phase to vanilla and go ____" or whatever.
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Whatever it is they do, they're going to try to get money out of it. There's almost no way they wouldn't, sadly.
That would be a good idea though, but I'm not sure how they'd handle it with the whole money situation.
Plus, they probably wouldn't let characters from WoD to go play on Vanilla, not because of limits but because it would be similar to switching realms when you go to a different expansion. I would suggest different realms with everything set back to whatever expansion, and people would maybe have to pay an extra $5 a month for each expansion legacy server they'd like to have access too.
That way, there is still financial gain for Blizzard, which would motivate them to actually pull through with it.
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Fuck Blizzard dawg, private servers 4 laif
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Blizz is so done with wow, the only reason they keep it up is because it brings in income. They want to move on so they are slowly making the game suck.